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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Post-Script on the Off-Year Elections: Goodbye to the Big Mandate and other Big Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Post-Script on the Off-Year Elections: Goodbye to the Big Mandate and other Big Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion at Zombie Contentions (under &#8220;Smackdown from the ‘Burbs,&#8221; a piece by Howard Portnoy cross-posted in the GR), we recently had a couple of commenters [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussion at Zombie Contentions (under &#8220;Smackdown from the ‘Burbs,&#8221; a piece by Howard Portnoy cross-posted in the GR), we recently had a couple of commenters [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ZOMBIE CONTENTIONS - RE: Smackdown from the Burbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZOMBIE CONTENTIONS - RE: Smackdown from the Burbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Smackdown from the ‘Burbs,&#8221; we have our loyal home frog and a visitor arguing the &#8220;Tuesday&#8217;s elections mean [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Portnoy</title>
		<link>http://ckmac.com/thewholething/2009/11/smackdown-from-the-burbs/#comment-12441</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Portnoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12436&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thurman Hart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
Thurman, that&#039;s a good try but no sale. (Or maybe I should no cigar.) Bill Clinton damaged himself by going one-on-one with the anointed one during the election, making his coattails shorter than they once were.

But the really conclusive proof will come next November. If NJ was a one-off deal that had nothing to do with Obama and he&#039;s still &quot;the man&quot; among Dems and independents, then the midterms should break for the Dems. If on the other hand, independents have wised up, as I maintain, then 2010 should be a bloodbath for Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12441"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12436" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Thurman Hart</a></b>:<br />
Thurman, that&#8217;s a good try but no sale. (Or maybe I should no cigar.) Bill Clinton damaged himself by going one-on-one with the anointed one during the election, making his coattails shorter than they once were.</p>
<p>But the really conclusive proof will come next November. If NJ was a one-off deal that had nothing to do with Obama and he&#8217;s still &#8220;the man&#8221; among Dems and independents, then the midterms should break for the Dems. If on the other hand, independents have wised up, as I maintain, then 2010 should be a bloodbath for Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Thurman Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thurman Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12284&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CK MacLeod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
Corzine was defeated in New Jersey for three reasons: 1) NJ has the highest taxes in the country and Corzine had actually raised them again; 2) NJ has a horrible problem with political corruption and Corzine was seen as tolerant of it, if not involved in it; and 3) He had had a net unfavorable rating for well over a year.

It&#039;s true that Obama showed up to try and get a few more thousand people to the polls.  It didn&#039;t work.  But Bill Clinton also showed up.  So is the lack of votes for Corzine also a referendum on Bill Clinton?  Or is the more likely answer that this election was almost entirely a local one?

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12436"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12284" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">CK MacLeod</a></b>:<br />
Corzine was defeated in New Jersey for three reasons: 1) NJ has the highest taxes in the country and Corzine had actually raised them again; 2) NJ has a horrible problem with political corruption and Corzine was seen as tolerant of it, if not involved in it; and 3) He had had a net unfavorable rating for well over a year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that Obama showed up to try and get a few more thousand people to the polls.  It didn&#8217;t work.  But Bill Clinton also showed up.  So is the lack of votes for Corzine also a referendum on Bill Clinton?  Or is the more likely answer that this election was almost entirely a local one?</p>
<p>Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Portnoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Portnoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12297&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fuster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
So I was right. It &lt;Em&gt;is &lt;/Em&gt;the New Jersey Piece o’ Crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12298"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12297" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">fuster</a></b>:<br />
So I was right. It <em>is </em>the New Jersey Piece o’ Crap</p>
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		<title>By: fuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pile of crap with the largest circulation in New Jersey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12297"><p>The pile of crap with the largest circulation in New Jersey.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Portnoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Portnoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12294&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fuster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
What newspaper, buddy? The New Jersey Piece o&#039; Crap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12295"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12294" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">fuster</a></b>:<br />
What newspaper, buddy? The New Jersey Piece o&#8217; Crap?</p>
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		<title>By: fuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12289&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Howard Portnoy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:I found it one of them there newspapers, Howard. The one what has good sports coverage.
You want I should go burn down the office?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12294"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12289" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Howard Portnoy</a></b>:I found it one of them there newspapers, Howard. The one what has good sports coverage.<br />
You want I should go burn down the office?</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Portnoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Portnoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#co_12283&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fuster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
Your bias is showing, Mr. Middle of the Road. That&#039;s a very official looking document you dredged up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12289"><p><b>@ <a href="#co_12283" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">fuster</a></b>:<br />
Your bias is showing, Mr. Middle of the Road. That&#8217;s a very official looking document you dredged up there.</p>
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		<title>By: CK MacLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it, it&#039;s hard to conceive of a purer political expression of &quot;financialized neo-liberalism&quot; than John Corzine and his failed re-election campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_12285"><p>Come to think of it, it&#8217;s hard to conceive of a purer political expression of &#8220;financialized neo-liberalism&#8221; than John Corzine and his failed re-election campaign.</p>
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